Saturday, October 18, 2008

Sign Of The Times

McPain sign spotted near Orange / Ulster border

I was driving around in the Hudson Valley when I spotted this sign. You wouldn't think that you would notice it that easily while driving by but it just jumped out and screamed for its picture to be taken.

Problem was that when I pulled over to take the picture, other cars started pulling over too. I though maybe some irate McCain supporters were going to demand my passport or something -but do you know what the other people who pulled over asked?

"Hey ! Where do I get one of those signs ? I want one!" The camera phones were flashing after that - big time.

Obama in 2008


Anonymous said...

McPain is right if you pull that lever November 4. Obama Biden is my choice for change. I AM NOT BETTER OFF NOW THAN I WAS 4 YEARS AGO.


Anonymous said...

McPain and his Pain, his ditzy VP

Anonymous said...

Obama is a socialist. Our country is going to become a socialist country. Tax someone who makes $250,000. Tax someone who has worked hard for their money. Tax someone who is successful and then give that money to the poor. That is just wrong.


We are going to go into another depression. Obama wants to slow trade with other countries and to raise taxes, which in the past, if history does repeat its self, leads to a depression.

Anonymous said...

have you been listening to the Sean Hannity show again? lol

Obama in 2008

Anonymous said...

McPain sizes it up nice when it comes to the continued policies of the Bush administration, which these two clowns will bring if they win. I'm counting on the Amarican people to reject the hoodwink job Team McPain are feeding them. Go Obama!

Obama 08

Anonymous said...


And blame this on McCain? Interesting. You can laugh all you want, I'm not voting for either of these yahoo's. We're all in the crapper, so who's driving?

Anonymous said...

obviously, not you who is just going along for the ride. I know one omportant thing about this election, Obama is the one that I feel is talking to me - joe the middleclass worker - and he has got my vote.

The mistake about Joe the plumber is that joe the plumber is turning in his wrenches to be joe the business owner - so - yea, if you are going to make over $250k by buying the business you will pay more taxes than the $70k plumber you used to be.

That was a phoney planted story by the McPains.

Anonymous said...

The more I here John "W" McCain talk, the more I cringe on just the thought of four more years of the same policies if this guy is elected!Can the working man and woman survive it? I for one do not wan't to put that to the test come Nov.4th. We've been down that road and hows it played out for ya? Not so good, unemployment continues to increase,the war in Iraq has taken its toll on our military,and on our pocketbook,and the economy is
declining everyday.I don't need to relive the past,especially when it looks like this!
A vote for Obama is a vote for the future of the middle class, who Washington has forgotten about!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

After Obama wins, and I'm sure he will...and yes, I said earlier that I'm voting for neither of them, you can all get back to me in four years and let me know just how much has changed. Like it or not, we're all going along for the ride. Yeah, I feel like both of these candidates are talking to me, because that's what they're supposed to be doing. We all just root for our home teams, regardless of how the season's going...blindness, amazing.

bullhorner said...

Can we get back to you this year on the 4 year (or 8, your choice) review of George Bush ? because I bet you DID vote for him last time?

Are you interested in that review?
You must be right?

Why don't we put you in charge of that review for a good laugh.

Anonymous said...

hey 1:58 - you need to do your homework before you start spouting: Joe the Plumber (who isn't a real plumber and owes back taxes so he's not even paying his fair share now), didn't understand Obama's plan. When he heard it, he realized that he'll be paying LESS taxes than under McPain's plan. Only the TAXABLE portion over $250,000 - not the entire amount - will go up to 39% from 36%. That means you'll have to make well more than $250,000 - exemptions, deductions, write-offs, etc. So, if your TAXABLE income is $270,000, you'll pay an additional 3% on $20,000, or $600. Is that too much to pay for someone who must've made about $400,000 that year? As it turns out, the business he wants to buy will not yield him a net taxable income of more than a quarter million dollars. Furthermore, if you watched any interviews of REAL plumbers (i.e., LICENSED!!!), they all laughed and wished they were making close to $250K a year. Most of them make far less than $100K a year. A friend of mine who's a licensed plumber in the city of Kingston grosses a little over $100K - but after his expenses (truck, insurance, etc.), he makes way less than that.

Additionally, Obama wants to close the tax loopholes for companies who outsource overseas and give tax credits for companies who employ domestically. At an annual UC Democratic Committee dinner, Hank "Sonny" Bunce remarked that contrary to popular belief, companies aren't outsourcing because of unions, they outsource because of all the regulations here (an example: buildng codes - sprinkler systems, ADA, etc.). Too many companies want to save money. They don't care about worker safety and build factories overseas to the detriment of our workforce (and compromising the safety of the workers overseas who work in horrid conditions). Obama wants to stem the tide; we're losing too many jobs to China and countries most people couldn't pronounce or even find on a map!

Anonymous said...

8:53 says "... I'm not voting for either of these yahoo's...."

Good - stay home on Election Day - but then you can't complain about anything. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. Don't whine about taxes, laws you don't like, or anything else; you're not doing anything to effect change. Bitching doesn't count.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait to have a President that really cares about us down here on the bottom of the economic rung of trhe ladder. President Obama sounds really good to me. I've had enough pain.

Anonymous said...

Who said I wasn't going to vote? Last time I checked, there were more than two people on the ballot. Being an AMERICAN, I reserve the right to vote for whomever I choose to. Telling me to stay home on election day is downright disrespectful to the democratic process and un-American. Yes I will be voting, and yes, that gives me the right to "complain" when the status-quo remains unchanged. For the record, in the last four elections, I voted Dem. because I felt they were right for America. Don't try and pin Bush on me...we ALL paid the price on that one.

Anonymous said...

Voting for the third candidate is throwing away your vote....if you are a working person I don't see how Obama doesn't do it for ya.

This time, I'm voting for MY dinner table...all that other crap that Fox news and others bring up doesn't pay my bills or feed my kids, Obama is going to positively affect my table. Period.

Like they say
Obama in 2008

Anonymous said...

"Voting for the third candidate is throwing away your vote....if you are a working person I don't see how Obama doesn't do it for ya."

I didn't see that one coming. How text-book of you. I am a working person also. I pay taxes, I make sure my children are insured, I do my absolute best to provide the life for my family, that I wasn't fortunate enough to have. I am still not buying into the rhetoric presented by both candidates.

As you said, it's MY vote. You Obama supporters make it sound like the day he takes office, it's going to be all rainbows and kittens. It's going to be a tough few years regardless of who takes the helm.

Anonymous said...

you're right - you can vote for the other candidates running for the other offices, but if MCain gets in we can't afford to continue to spend $10B a month in Iraq. And, two words: Supreme Court. I can't even think of what would happen if they overturned Roe v. Wade. There's too much at risk to abstain and NOT vote for Obama. Obama is brilliant and well-respected abroad - which is more than what can be said for the idiot we have now.

Anonymous said...

you are right - it's your vote. If you can't bring yourself to vote for the candidate that overtly supports the middleclass, I guess that is your choice.

Either that
or you make over $250k
But at least you are not a McPain

Anonymous said...

I know one thing for sure,
this blog is becoming the best one around. Keep up the good work Bullhorner

Steve Krulick said...

The late, great George Carlin had a unique and perceptive take on the issue of not voting and complaining:

"You may have noticed that there's one thing I don't complain about: Politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says, "They suck." But where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. No, they come from American homes, American families, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and they're elected by American voters. This is the best we can do, folks. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out.

....I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, "If you don't vote, you have no right to complain", but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain.

I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."


That said, I have already voted by absentee ballot for Nader for the fourth time since 1996. My vote in New York will be no more responsible for the results of who winds up in the White House than it did in 2000 or 2004 (which elections were stolen outright anyway). As I had NO intention of voting for any major party candidate in those year, my vote for Nader took NO votes away from any other candidate, and added NO votes to any other candidate. The results, in the end, were identical to not voting at all; one does not "siphon" votes from the other candidate, as no candidate OWNS your vote... only YOU own it!

As Eugene V. Debs said, "I'd rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don't want, and get it."

Or as 2nd President John Adams said: "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

Anonymous said...

There will be civil war before Roe vs. Wade get's overturned. They know it, we know it. It'll never happen. Issues regarding the right to choose, religion, etc. are way too sensitive to become a serious issue among such a broad and diverse American society.

250k would be nice, and I don't make anything close to that. It is however, definitely a goal I wouldn't mind reaching. But just like in business, the more revenue you bring in, the more your expenses go up. So why should I be taxed even more just for reaching said amount? Makes no sense.

Yes, you're right about the need to stop spending so much money on Iraq. Here's a thought...if presidential candidates can raise such substantially vast amounts of money on their campaigns, why then, can't they use the same approach while in office? Word is Obama is going to spend 1 million dollars for half an hour of airtime during the world series. Is that really necessary? A million bucks can sure pay for a lot of health care.

I won't take marriage advice from someone who's single. Don't tell me how to raise my children if you don't have any. So why should I believe that someone will fight to the death for us middle-class folks when he himself isn't one? And who signs their paychecks? WE DO. Awfully convenient, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

If Roe v. Wade gets overturned, that doesn't mean that abortion will become illegal throughout the nation; instead, it becomes a states' rights issue. While abortion would remain legal in NYS, other states would vote to make it illegal - you must've read how some states now require parental permission, prosecuting doctors in Kansas, etc.

I do see your point about the unfairness of being taxed more, but in the end, the wealthy end up paying a much lower percentage of taxes because they have access to loopholes that the middle class doesn't. I don't think wealthy people should be penalized, I think there are too many loopholes that should be closed.

I couldn't agree more on the obscenity of spending ridiculous amounts of money on campaigning or other frivolity. To see a Hollywood actress at the Oscars (which I don't watch) have diamonds sewn onto her dress and stand there and ask us to help out the poor people in Darfur makes me sick. But, there are other segments of society that get paid too much and don't contribute as well - look how much money sports figures make.

I don't get your last paragraph at all if you're talking about the 4 presidential and VP candidates - all are married with children. All but 3 came from middle and lower-middle class backgrounds. McCain came from privilege, Obama wasn't wealthy and went to college on scholarships. Biden was from a blue-collar working family in Scranton, and the same goes for Palin. But socio-economic background isn't an indicator as to whether or not someone will fight for others. Some who worked hard to become successful have the idea that if they did it, everyone else can. And that's simply not true. There are many factors that can contribute to one's success - and to be judgmental that others were unable to make it (I'm not including those who are too lazy to try) is totally unfair.

Btw - I hope you're not accusing me of giving marital advice - I certainly didn't intend to. I'm married with kids and struggling too many others. And that's why I'm voting for Obama/Biden.

Anonymous said...

I saw that sign too and I went by yesterday and it was GONE! I wonder who did that? Maybe Sean Hannity was driving by in the area.
I saw another one in Kingston though.